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    Zona’s Quick Tip: How to Handle Your Boat in Rough Water | BoatUS

    October 11, 2019


    Hey friends at BoatUS! Mark Zona, host of Zona’s Awesome Fishing
    Show. You know one thing that … usually we do
    fishing tips … here’s one tip in case you get caught in water like this. [MUSIC]
    Look at all those waves right there. What you want to do is keep that motor down
    and the front of your bow up. Generally that’s 10 to maybe 17 miles per
    hour where you’re getting the bow up. Where people really get in trouble in rough
    water, they want to go too fast or go too slow. Remember: If you get caught this next season
    out in rough water, you want to take care of yourself. You want to take care of your family. OK? Keep the nose up. Slow down. Keep the nose up. Take your time! And you’ll make it back safely. That’s the number-one tip I can give you for
    taking care of yourself in rough water. Bye! Take care BoatUS friends!

    Aluminum Boat For Sale – Mission Marine 21′  – Binnacle
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    Aluminum Boat For Sale – Mission Marine 21′ – Binnacle

    October 10, 2019


    In this conversation, I would like to share a little bit about the console with you. The first thing I want you to notice is that the hard top is all-welded aluminum, and there’s lots of handrails. The big deal about welded aluminum is it is not going to rot, tear, fall apart the way traditional fabric hardtops do. The next thing we should look at it is handrailings. Lots of places to hold on. Also consider that the navigation light is up here. It is certainly easier to see there then down here when the water is rough. This is the door access to go underneath the console … to go in and work on any of the electronics or service any of the electrical. What we see in here are three battery boxes, master shut-offs for those battery boxes, and then all of our wiring. And if you notice, the wiring is actually all well-strapped and tied down. This is an emergency box that has special gear for an emergency. This is the main binnacle; there’s lots of interesting things to see. The first is that there are many removable panels; so in the future when you have a new GPS or a radio or computer, and you need a place to mount it, you can remove this panel or this panel and you can mount it out on the bench and bring it back in. And if you think about it, from where we were underneath, there was access to it right here. You don’t have to stand on your head to work on these components. That’s a big advantage. Another thing you should see here is that there’s lots of room. Even though we are only in a 21 footer, we have a lot of access here, and then we could also yoke mount electronics right above. So there’s a little bit about the 21 footer and its console: lots of room to work, lots of places to hold on, a good stable working platform.

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    Sportsman Boats – Tournament 214 SBX Bay Boat Walkthrough

    October 9, 2019


    Hello today we’re taking a look at the
    Tournament 214 SBX now this model is optioned for the
    budget-minded angler and starts at just under $35,000 now everything I’m going
    to show you on this boat today is included in that price and for
    specifications this boat measures in 21 feet four inches with an 8 foot be 64
    gallons of fuel 15-degree deadrise and 10 inches of draft so now let’s take a
    look at the bow now one of the main features of the 214 SBX is the bow
    layout now all the hardware up here is flush mounted for an obstruction free
    casting platform now on both sides we have lockable rod storage five on one
    side and five on the other side now center of that we have a nice size fish
    box which is insulated and right behind that there is a nice bait and prep area for
    your baits now this does feature a storage compartment and a ruler over the
    top now moving forward we have the oversized anchor locker compartment
    with the trolling motor harness already pre-wired into the console and to finish
    everything up we have a high-quality pull up cleat so now let’s take a look
    at the console now in front of the console underneath the bottom cushion
    there is a 10 gallon live well now opening the back reveals some additional
    storage as well as the battery switch we do have a courtesy light right there
    on the floor and on either side of the console six rod holders three on either
    side a grab handle over the top and an acrylic windshield to give you some
    protection for electronics on this boat we have the sport link electronics
    integration system now this is a factory installed set of electronics that comes
    standard in the boat it features the Garmin 64 CV that is paired up to the
    GT 23 transom-mounted transducer now this combination will give you chirp
    blue Charts g3 as well as built-in Wi-Fi to the left of that you have your fuel
    tach and trim gauges 12-volt switches 12 volt charging plug as well as a
    sportsman steering wheel with a knob Yamaha binnacle two cupholders and some
    storage below now for the leaning post on this boat it is as comfortable as it
    is functional it does feature the hourglass pattern on the
    upholstery as well as to grab handles on either side and for rod holders across
    the back underneath plenty of space for a cooler and we do offer the Yeti slide out
    cooler and the under leaning post tackle storage for the rear deck we have a
    two-person bench now the bottom opens up revealing our total access hatch it is
    lockable providing you with some additional storage this gives you
    best-in-class access for any service or maintenance
    needed closing this up reveals a totally flush rear deck on the port side there’s
    a 20 gallon insulated cooler box that can serve as dry storage and over on the
    starboard side there’s a 20 gallon live well it is insulated and can also be
    equipped with the pro air bubbler system now in the splash wall all that rigging
    is nice and neat and it does have seastars hydraulic steering Yamahas 150
    is the standard on this boat but you can get up to a 200 SHO let’s talk about
    the hull our 214 hulls have two performance features built in starting
    with this enhanced transom angle this will give you an additional 1 degree of
    engine trim also we have this built-in pocket and together this combination
    will give you the best stand up performance in extremely shallow water
    this boat as with every other Sportsman Boat is NMMA certified and built to ABYC standards representing the highest safety standards in the boating industry
    so that’s gonna wrap it up today on the tournament 214 SBX walkthrough if you
    have any questions visit our website SportsmanBoatsMFG.com or contact your
    local dealer thanks for watching

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    Sportsman Boats – Tournament 214 SBX Walkthrough

    October 6, 2019


    Hello today we’re taking a look at the
    Tournament 214 SBX now this model is optioned for the
    budget-minded angler and starts at just under $35,000 now everything I’m going
    to show you on this boat today is included in that price and for
    specifications this boat measures in 21 feet four inches with an 8 foot be 64
    gallons of fuel 15-degree deadrise and 10 inches of draft so now let’s take a
    look at the bow now one of the main features of the 214 SBX is the bow
    layout now all the hardware up here is flush mounted for an obstruction free
    casting platform now on both sides we have lockable rod storage five on one
    side and five on the other side now center of that we have a nice size fish
    box which is insulated and right behind that there is a nice bait and prep area for
    your baits now this does feature a storage compartment and a ruler over the
    top now moving forward we have the oversized anchor locker compartment
    with the trolling motor harness already pre-wired into the console and to finish
    everything up we have a high-quality pull up cleat so now let’s take a look
    at the console now in front of the console underneath the bottom cushion
    there is a 10 gallon live well now opening the back reveals some additional
    storage as well as the battery switch we do have a courtesy light right there
    on the floor and on either side of the console six rod holders three on either
    side a grab handle over the top and an acrylic windshield to give you some
    protection for electronics on this boat we have the sport link electronics
    integration system now this is a factory installed set of electronics that comes
    standard in the boat it features the Garmin 64 CV that is paired up to the
    GT 23 transom-mounted transducer now this combination will give you chirp
    blue Charts g3 as well as built-in Wi-Fi to the left of that you have your fuel
    tach and trim gauges 12-volt switches 12 volt charging plug as well as a
    sportsman steering wheel with a knob Yamaha binnacle two cupholders and some
    storage below now for the leaning post on this boat it is as comfortable as it
    is functional it does feature the hourglass pattern on the
    upholstery as well as to grab handles on either side and for rod holders across
    the back underneath plenty of space for a cooler and we do offer the Yeti slide out
    cooler and the under leaning post tackle storage for the rear deck we have a
    two-person bench now the bottom opens up revealing our total access hatch it is
    lockable providing you with some additional storage this gives you
    best-in-class access for any service or maintenance
    needed closing this up reveals a totally flush rear deck on the port side there’s
    a 20 gallon insulated cooler box that can serve as dry storage and over on the
    starboard side there’s a 20 gallon live well it is insulated and can also be
    equipped with the pro air bubbler system now in the splash wall all that rigging
    is nice and neat and it does have seastars hydraulic steering Yamahas 150
    is the standard on this boat but you can get up to a 200 SHO let’s talk about
    the hull our 214 hulls have two performance features built in starting
    with this enhanced transom angle this will give you an additional 1 degree of
    engine trim also we have this built-in pocket and together this combination
    will give you the best stand up performance in extremely shallow water
    this boat as with every other Sportsman Boat is NMMA certified and built to ABYC standards representing the highest safety standards in the boating industry
    so that’s gonna wrap it up today on the tournament 214 SBX walkthrough if you
    have any questions visit our website SportsmanBoatsMFG.com or contact your
    local dealer thanks for watching

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    BRAND NEW BOAT REVEAL!!!! No more Jon Boat

    September 28, 2019


    What is up, ladies and gentlemen, so here is my big surprise I have been waiting for this for I don’t know since I was a little boy my dad and my mom finally decided that we needed a family but something that you know We could get together on and have some fun go fishing Just cruise around and I found the perfect boat. We looked at it for a while it took us a long time We finally got it. It is an Express h20 tube a all-aluminum 22 foot center console and like I said, it’s all aluminum that’s injected with foam. It’s super lightweight It’s really durable, but it doesn’t that wait almost a thing like I told I don’t even feel it But that tending to maximal trailer, it feels like absolutely just like there’s nothing there. I mean, honestly I do have a diesel so, I don’t know how it’ll compare with gas rigs but It’s awesome. I’m so far. I’m in love with it. I’ve taken it out twice it cut through waves like butter Does not compare to a bass boat at all bass, but it would be just eaten alive and this thing just cruise right through Almost like a runabout boat, you know something that you would get like for the family You know a fish and ski or whatever those boats as bigger boats Crown lines, for example, we had a buddy got a crown line, and I thought this handled better than it So what else it’s got. Let me just give you the rundown. Basically. It’s got a 150 Yamaha four-stroke Pushes the boat. They said around 55 to 60 miles per hour Somewhere in that range. I’ve only gotten it up to 42 so far and I felt like I was flying Did the first like two hours I think I got eight to go and I definitely know I’m gonna wide open throttle here and there but I’m not supposed to do it for long So the tandem axle trailer with the brakes and now I’ll show you all inside speakers right there on both sides rod holders lights All the chrome no gotta look cool It’s not jump seats on both sides right there. And there’s one over there. It’s got a big old live. Well right here Open that up. It’s got a split guard or whatever You can split it in half keep two catches at the same time. If your bass fishing. I need a little less room for them a Chair in the back you can take that out, right? So on the inside you got this little footrest you can pop up and down Your main captain’s seat another jump seat So here’s the center console got a hummingbird. He looks nine on it Awesome unit. I’ve never had a unit like this I had a my other video you can see I got that little law I forget what it’s called actually, but this thing’s unbelievable. This this is just cheating in my opinion Well, so we got there’s your dollar gauge fuel rpm So far, I’ve only gotten it up some like four and a half hour p.m I’d be hoping to wide open throttle you got live-ball nav lights builds Throttle speaker speakers awesome all my favorite parts The steering wheel you can lift it up and down And adjust it for convenience Your storage lights your bait. Well lights the boat lights if you’re running at night And there’s just a couple batteries and a three bank battery charger Now we’re gonna move up to the front lots of room as you drain So it’s coated in this like rubbery bedliner material It’s a little softer than bedliner and I was rougher course it does not get hot. It’s really cool You got sores lockers right here. Big old storage lockers. They do leak though right here I’m gonna get them sealed here soon when I get my 20 hour service in You got one on both sides. They’re huge. Yeah, huge but they’re pretty dang big. I got seven foot rods. They go in there these Mother Center storage just keep you know life jackets those buoys in there Got a leaning post seat, which was awesome It’s more like a bass, but I prefer it to those backrest seats and then on the front We got a mink coat Riptide tour OVA. It’s 80 pound iPilot. It’s got a remote control Here’s the GPS for it or the whatever that is a dormant bro that’s called So here it is. I’ll show you the remote Take the remote out right here coolest part about it I don’t know if you guys are familiar for those of you that aren’t if you click this anchor button It will anchor you within like a two foot diameter and it’ll keep your boat in place You don’t need a big anchor if you’re out in deep water You know, you could easily use up to a hundred two hundred feet of rope Well, you don’t need that with this boat You just hit thanked or bought it and sends it up to the satellite Sends your location up and it just spot locks right there and get in that spot. You can fish all you want Put that back. So right here what you’re looking at This is a just a cushion came with this boat, and she’s got some buttons You just put it on and all your friends can sit you wanna fit a couple more people boats rated up to eight people So it’s a thousand eleven hundred pounds or something. So you got a bunch of bat buddies Well gonna have to trim that number down right here. I got a trim Lever button. I can raise the motor in the back So I don’t have to run to the back of the boat when I’m in shallow skinny water That’s where the lights go when you’re running at night Oh, yeah, so right here, this is pretty cool. You got a bait ball right here You know, it’s it’s a bay boat. Technically you need bait Keep that it’s pretty cool gobbling that for it Cupholder there’s a screen Actually does a pretty good job of protecting you from the wind to a surprise rerun and some rain yesterday And my brother is up front. He was getting hit with some pellets and I was behind I was in the back. I was just Cruising we’re doing like 40 miles per hour house fine. No worries at all All right. Well, let me jump out give you one more look at the outside So here it is Unfortunately, I will no longer be a Chon boat owner, but I am not complaining one bit Let me know what you guys think if you have any questions about it if you have any concerns if you’re interested in buying one of these and you happen to live in Georgia Perry’s High-tech outboards. They’re just probably the best guys are awesome super helpful really nice guys have tons of experience and They specialize in Express boats everyone for the express both dealers in Georgia very few of them Yeah, so check them out there. Honestly, I think aluminum is taking over the market maybe not taking over the market, but it’s growing tremendously and and I think it’ll be It’ll be a lot a lot more popular as the years come Cuz it is just just too good. They’re lightweight. They’re just strong They’re really not any louder than the fiberglass boats because they are foam injected. I Really? I just I didn’t really notice much of a difference. It’s definitely a little bit but it’s not bad at all and If you guys haven’t checked out my other videos, please do I got my jon boat conversion video? Just like an explanation. I got some fishing videos. I’ll definitely be putting up more calm more more videos in the meet in the meantime Here in the near future, especially with this bad boy. I can finally stand without a rocking boat So yeah, check it out subscribe like this video Let me know what you guys think Whether or not you like this boat what you would prefer if there’s something you could do this boat that you might do like the next thing I’m doing is rod holders on the back of that main seat and Gasps they tuned for more

    2017 Pontoon Boat AVALON LS | High-quality compact boat
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    2017 Pontoon Boat AVALON LS | High-quality compact boat

    September 19, 2019


    Avalon LS is a brilliant solution for those discerning buyers who want legendary Avalon innovation, performance, and style, at an extremely competitive price LS offers sumptuous looks, rigid structure, and features classic deco wall design. On board, you’ll find plush, handcrafted furniture and a sleak retro designed cadet drivers stand. Whether cruising back waterways, or parked front and center at a rocking sandbar party, LS is the affordable head-turner you’ve been waiting for. Visit your local dealer today to discover the incredible specifics and find out why LS is the must-have, economically efficient, water shredding-machine available in these five beautiful layouts: The Cruise Rear Bench floor plans feature both a port and starboard bow bench, in addition to the aft seating area. The aft portion of the pontoon has a corner seating area and rear-facing bench. Quad Lounge floor plans contain port and starboard benches in both the bow and aft portions of the boat. In addition to the Captain’s Chair, there is also a port-side chair. Entertainer boasts a bistro bar table with booth seating as well as port and starboard benches in both the bow and aft portions of the boat. Fish — If fishing is first and cruising is second, then check out the Quad Fish. If cruising is your aim, but you want a fishing-equipped space, then choose Rear Fish. On the Quad Fish and Rear Fish, you get a live well and rod holders. Our Bow Fish features two fishing chairs in the bow area of the pontoon. The aft portion of the pontoon contains a rear corner seating area and a rear-facing bench. Innovation, performance, and style. Experience LS.
    The Art of the Pontoon.

    2017 Pontoon Boat AVALON EAGLE | Compact luxury
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    2017 Pontoon Boat AVALON EAGLE | Compact luxury

    September 10, 2019


    Avalon Eagle is living proof that great things come in small packages. And don’t let its easy-to-trailer size fool you… This is ‘the little pontoon that could.’ Eagle has the tight handling of a sports car and the plush interior and smooth ride of far-more-costly competitors. This wildly popular model is perfect for smaller lakes and budgets, all while delivering big water and big-budget thrills. And when it comes to style, Eagle will rock any sand bar party in the land. So think big by thinking small because you simply will not find a better pontoon for the money. And more proof, consider these two outstanding layouts: The Cruise Rear Bench floor plans feature both a port and starboard bow bench in addition to the aft seating area. The aft portion of the pontoon has a core seating area, and rear-facing bench. Quad Lounge floor plans contain port and starboard benches in both the bow and aft portions of the boat. If fishing is first and cruising is second, then check out the Quad Fish. If cruising is your aim, but you want a fishing-equipped space, then choose Rear Fish. Either way, you get a live well and rod holders. Our Bow Fish features two fishing chairs in the bow area of the pontoon. The aft portion of the pontoon contains a rear corner seating area and a rear-facing bench. Innovation, performance, and style. Experience Eagle.
    The Art of the Pontoon.

    Aluminum Boat For Sale – Mission Marine 288 – Seating on the Biggest, Baddest 25′
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    Aluminum Boat For Sale – Mission Marine 288 – Seating on the Biggest, Baddest 25′

    September 7, 2019


    I want to talk just a moment about the bow. The bow is a pretty critical place on a boat, and if you notice on this twenty five footer, it’s a large working area; there is lots that can be done out there. It’s high … that keeps the thing out of the water, less
    spray coming up over the bow and hitting you in the face in a terrible storm, and
    so on. This bow is covered with non-skid and yet
    below it, it has storage. All these are a big advantage. If we look at the bow of this boat [Mission Marine] and
    compared it with the bow of these [competitor boat], these are much lower. So when you’re out in heavy seas, this [competitor boat] is more likely to go underwater than this [Mission Marine] one is. Also you’re walking on it [competitor boat]; whereas in this boat [Mission Marine] you can stand a little bit behind the forepeak bow area, and you’re still well-down inside of the safety area of the boat. … as opposed to being fully exposed like on these [competitor boat]. Now back to the Mission Marine boat. This is the area I talked about that we could walk across and stay down in the boat. To get up onto the forepeak, onto the deck, we have steps to do it; you don’t have to take one giant leap. And then we would put a seat across here which is probably the most incredible place to sit. It is the smoothest ride; it is an amazing place to be. In law enforcement they use it to separate guys from the bow to the Stern. In fishing, it’s oftentimes guys are sitting up here fishing off each side of the boat. And when you’re just out for a boat ride, this is where everybody wants to be. It’s a great place. Here’s again a picture of these steps going up onto the bow, and back to the beginning … the bow very important!

    Women Find Friendship Over Fly Fishing | NBC Nightly News
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    Women Find Friendship Over Fly Fishing | NBC Nightly News

    August 31, 2019


    LOVERS REELING IN A LOT OF INTEREST THESE DAYS FOR MORE AND MORE LOT OF INTEREST THESE DAYS FOR MORE AND MORE WOMEN. DAYS FOR MORE AND MORE WOMEN. IT’S OUR NIGHTLY WOMEN. IT’S OUR NIGHTLY SNAPSHOT. IT’S OUR NIGHTLY SNAPSHOT.>>Reporter: THIS IS SNAPSHOT.>>Reporter: THIS IS SLEEPILY CRAIG,>>Reporter: THIS IS SLEEPILY CRAIG, MONTANA, WHERE THE SLEEPILY CRAIG, MONTANA, WHERE THE POPULATION HAS JUST MONTANA, WHERE THE POPULATION HAS JUST DOUBLED. POPULATION HAS JUST DOUBLED. DOZENS OF WOMEN HAVE DOUBLED. DOZENS OF WOMEN HAVE DESCENDED ON THE TINY DOZENS OF WOMEN HAVE DESCENDED ON THE TINY FISHING TOWN WITH DESCENDED ON THE TINY FISHING TOWN WITH THEIR WADERS, RODS AND FISHING TOWN WITH THEIR WADERS, RODS AND FLIES, FOR A WEEKEND THEIR WADERS, RODS AND FLIES, FOR A WEEKEND TOGETHER ON THE WATER. FLIES, FOR A WEEKEND TOGETHER ON THE WATER.>>NICE JOB, NICE JOB, TOGETHER ON THE WATER.>>NICE JOB, NICE JOB, THAT’S A BEAUTY.>>NICE JOB, NICE JOB, THAT’S A BEAUTY.>>WE DRINK BEER AND THAT’S A BEAUTY.>>WE DRINK BEER AND PEE IN THE WOODS AND>>WE DRINK BEER AND PEE IN THE WOODS AND HANG OUT. PEE IN THE WOODS AND HANG OUT. IT’S AWESOME. HANG OUT. IT’S AWESOME.>>Reporter: HEATHER, IT’S AWESOME.>>Reporter: HEATHER, A CRITICAL FLY NURSE>>Reporter: HEATHER, A CRITICAL FLY NURSE STARTED FISHING 10 A CRITICAL FLY NURSE STARTED FISHING 10 YEARS AGO. STARTED FISHING 10 YEARS AGO.>>HOW BEAUTIFUL HE YEARS AGO.>>HOW BEAUTIFUL HE IS.>>HOW BEAUTIFUL HE IS.>>Reporter: LOOKING IS.>>Reporter: LOOKING FOR A FISHING BUDDY>>Reporter: LOOKING FOR A FISHING BUDDY SHE STARTED A GROUP FOR A FISHING BUDDY SHE STARTED A GROUP CALLED UNITED WOMEN ON SHE STARTED A GROUP CALLED UNITED WOMEN ON THE FLY. CALLED UNITED WOMEN ON THE FLY.>>WOMEN ARE REALLY THE FLY.>>WOMEN ARE REALLY GOOD FLY FISHERS.>>WOMEN ARE REALLY GOOD FLY FISHERS. FOR ONE, WE LISTEN. GOOD FLY FISHERS. FOR ONE, WE LISTEN. FOR TWO, IT’S NOT FOR ONE, WE LISTEN. FOR TWO, IT’S NOT ALWAYS JUST ABOUT THE FOR TWO, IT’S NOT ALWAYS JUST ABOUT THE FISH, MORE ABOUT THE ALWAYS JUST ABOUT THE FISH, MORE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE. FISH, MORE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE.>>Reporter: BUT SHE EXPERIENCE.>>Reporter: BUT SHE SAYS WHEN SHE WALKS>>Reporter: BUT SHE SAYS WHEN SHE WALKS INTO A FLY SHOP SHE SAYS WHEN SHE WALKS INTO A FLY SHOP SHE STILL SOMETIMES GETS INTO A FLY SHOP SHE STILL SOMETIMES GETS CONFUSED COMMENTS FROM STILL SOMETIMES GETS CONFUSED COMMENTS FROM MEN. CONFUSED COMMENTS FROM MEN.>>WHAT ARE YOU BUYING MEN.>>WHAT ARE YOU BUYING FROM YOUR HUSBAND,>>WHAT ARE YOU BUYING FROM YOUR HUSBAND, THAT SORT OF THING. FROM YOUR HUSBAND, THAT SORT OF THING. I POLITELY WILL MAYBE THAT SORT OF THING. I POLITELY WILL MAYBE TALK A LITTLE TALK. I POLITELY WILL MAYBE TALK A LITTLE TALK.>>Reporter: FOR TALK A LITTLE TALK.>>Reporter: FOR DECADES, THIS WAS>>Reporter: FOR DECADES, THIS WAS LARGELY A MAN SPORT DECADES, THIS WAS LARGELY A MAN SPORT WITH FEW FEMALE STARS LARGELY A MAN SPORT WITH FEW FEMALE STARS LIKE JOAN WOLFE. WITH FEW FEMALE STARS LIKE JOAN WOLFE. NOW, 32% OF WOMEN WHO LIKE JOAN WOLFE. NOW, 32% OF WOMEN WHO FLY FISH ARE WOMEN. NOW, 32% OF WOMEN WHO FLY FISH ARE WOMEN.>>LIKE YOGA ON THE FLY FISH ARE WOMEN.>>LIKE YOGA ON THE WATER.>>LIKE YOGA ON THE WATER. SOMETHING SO ZEN ABOUT WATER. SOMETHING SO ZEN ABOUT IT. SOMETHING SO ZEN ABOUT IT.>>Reporter: OFTEN ALL IT.>>Reporter: OFTEN ALL IT TAKES IS ONE NIBBLE>>Reporter: OFTEN ALL IT TAKES IS ONE NIBBLE TO GET HOOKED. IT TAKES IS ONE NIBBLE TO GET HOOKED.>>I DON’T EVEN NEED A